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I think I'm going to compromise and only reverse the holding pages to the ArtifactTemplate and leave the others alone. It only becomes an issue if the InteractionTemplate gets changed so it may just be wasted work. [[User:Weezel|Weezel]] 13:10, 20 April 2008 (MST) I think I'm going to compromise and only reverse the holding pages to the ArtifactTemplate and leave the others alone. It only becomes an issue if the InteractionTemplate gets changed so it may just be wasted work. [[User:Weezel|Weezel]] 13:10, 20 April 2008 (MST)
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Yeah, what happened is that I was working from the oldest to the newest.. so as I came across pages that were missing/misformed, I used the templating from the early pages that were correct. It wasn't until I got into the 16+ chapters that the ArtifactTemplate was being used, and I didn't realize what it was at first until I had changed a few, and then I traced the wikicode and understood it... So I reverted the few changes that I made, and then had a big update fest today to fix all the holding pages. At the very least, that will ensure that any new translations (even for old chapters) will follow the new template. It'd be a whole lotta work to update every existing template. However, I still might be inspired to do that one chapter at a time. There are some buggy translation templates out there right now. You can tell when you look at a chapter, or the codex by language, and there isn't an [Edit] button next to the section. So you have to open the page, and edit it that way. Happened on alot of English pages. However, if you redo the text to use the new Template, the edit button comes back.. so I'm sure its a simple parsing issue with the HTML. It doesn't happen to all the old templating, just some of it. I think you followed me on all that. :P [[User:Weezel|Weezel]] 21:22, 20 April 2008 (MST) Yeah, what happened is that I was working from the oldest to the newest.. so as I came across pages that were missing/misformed, I used the templating from the early pages that were correct. It wasn't until I got into the 16+ chapters that the ArtifactTemplate was being used, and I didn't realize what it was at first until I had changed a few, and then I traced the wikicode and understood it... So I reverted the few changes that I made, and then had a big update fest today to fix all the holding pages. At the very least, that will ensure that any new translations (even for old chapters) will follow the new template. It'd be a whole lotta work to update every existing template. However, I still might be inspired to do that one chapter at a time. There are some buggy translation templates out there right now. You can tell when you look at a chapter, or the codex by language, and there isn't an [Edit] button next to the section. So you have to open the page, and edit it that way. Happened on alot of English pages. However, if you redo the text to use the new Template, the edit button comes back.. so I'm sure its a simple parsing issue with the HTML. It doesn't happen to all the old templating, just some of it. I think you followed me on all that. :P [[User:Weezel|Weezel]] 21:22, 20 April 2008 (MST)

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Hi Thebruce,
how does the new codex pages work. Some of the German translations are on an extra page and some are also inserted automatically, some not. Who is intended to copy the things? Will you do this? AUZ505 14:19, 27 March 2008 (MST)

yeah I might fix up the templating a bit. Look for the page templates section in the sidebar, and use the Artifact content wikicode for the new artifact pages. Don't worry about creating the links to them - that's handled by the templating automatically. I'll adjust the templates so the page labelling is a little clearer in the full lists. --Thebruce 14:30, 27 March 2008 (MST)

One suggestion. How about a new timeline icon, like "blog", for "missions". Than we can also update on the timeline when new missions are assigned. Actually I will do this with the "update" icon, but I would prefer a special one AUZ505 03:49, 5 April 2008 (MST)

good idea, i'll get that up today sometime --Thebruce 05:59, 5 April 2008 (MST)

Discussions about page moves/merges should be kept on the pages in question, right? Rather than a generic page we can create for overall wiki discussions? Only asking with the number of new contributors. Kinda feels like sometimes things are in multiple places. For example, we have Monica still has postcard notes on it, but has no link to her pictures or postcards, Monica's_photos which also has shots of the newer postcards in it and then translations, Jorge's_Postcard which has copies of text the same as translations from Diego's email. I guess this just stood out as one example where I think the same text/images are being copied in multiple places when either it doesn't need to be, or needs to be linked better between them. I think I might try to tackle their reorg, but I wanted a place to discuss it. Weezel 09:51, 7 April 2008 (MST)


I was trying to make all the codex page templates uniform so that everything flowed through the templates the right way, that way if a template changed for layout, everything else flowed with it. I completed the first pass and then started cleaning up a little more, and I realized that the later pages are actually doing it correctly by passing it to the Template:ArtifactTemplate which in turn passes it to the Interaction template, rather than the InteractionTemplate directly. I didn't want to have some one way and some the other way, but now I realized that if they are supposed to flow into ArtifactTemplate first, it means editing every single language translation. I guess the nice thing about the template is it makes sure you don't typo the image name, or forget the clearall etc.

I think I'm going to compromise and only reverse the holding pages to the ArtifactTemplate and leave the others alone. It only becomes an issue if the InteractionTemplate gets changed so it may just be wasted work. Weezel 13:10, 20 April 2008 (MST)


Yeah, what happened is that I was working from the oldest to the newest.. so as I came across pages that were missing/misformed, I used the templating from the early pages that were correct. It wasn't until I got into the 16+ chapters that the ArtifactTemplate was being used, and I didn't realize what it was at first until I had changed a few, and then I traced the wikicode and understood it... So I reverted the few changes that I made, and then had a big update fest today to fix all the holding pages. At the very least, that will ensure that any new translations (even for old chapters) will follow the new template. It'd be a whole lotta work to update every existing template. However, I still might be inspired to do that one chapter at a time. There are some buggy translation templates out there right now. You can tell when you look at a chapter, or the codex by language, and there isn't an [Edit] button next to the section. So you have to open the page, and edit it that way. Happened on alot of English pages. However, if you redo the text to use the new Template, the edit button comes back.. so I'm sure its a simple parsing issue with the HTML. It doesn't happen to all the old templating, just some of it. I think you followed me on all that. :P Weezel 21:22, 20 April 2008 (MST)

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